Upgrade App View from 12/19/16 DOWNGRADE--It's HORRIBLE, UGLY & DIFFICULT TO READ
NV no longer user friendly to basic patrons.
# of settings gone, replaced w/ lists that don't even provide a FULL headline.
Bad options of huge font wasting space where 2nd line is repeatative of headline (really?!) leaving no room for articles to scan which is the point of an rss feed dashboard to scan at glance in the first place...OR
short/med/tall lists of articles w/ boring small, gray-hard-to-read font that is redundant in design for all apps--AGAIN THE LISTED ARTICLES HEADLINES ARE CUT OFFw/ a column break & date.
which defeats the purpose of glancing/scanning which is the purpose of rss feed widgets/apps, frustrating to read a partial headline w/ the only alternative to open directly to the website to gain the full headline and then determine if to be read or not, and then switch back to the next headline that is cutoff and so the cycle continues on and on--this defeats even having a dashboard app view if it's inept, useless and laborious.
Hovering to get a gist of article content GONE.
Scroll useless--once opened article directly to a website, I can view what's offered there to read--I don't need endless lists of articles I've already read!
App View ruined aesthetically--just lists in squares w/ the only distinction between apps being the heading logo--boring, UGLY, unpleasant and hard to read--annoying w/ the cutoff, yes again!
THIS RELEASED UPDATE IS A GROSSLY STREAMLINED DOWNGRADE TO THE MAX! Seriously Netvibes, YOUR USERS/PATRONS DESERVE MUCH BETTER than this skeletal mess.
Time to find an alternative.
Ditto, you really screwed up the presentation. At least make the new infinite scrolling an option and not a mandate. If you don't fix this I will be moving away from Netvibes.
I agree with this comment. I preferred the old format which allowed for the top 3 or 4 stories of each category. With the new format, the site provides too much information and is also much more difficult to navigate vertically without accidentally scrolling through each category. Please restore the previous layout, or provide the option to universally control the number of stories for each category. I liked Netvibes because of it allows for me to quickly get information in a simple and concise format, and this is definitely a step in the wrong direction.
Please offer us a rollback. There's nothing I like about the new design. But of all the badness, the gray type is the worst. It's simply unreadable...it's like a ghost page. Weird.
The new app view is just awful, and inflexible. What made you think you had a problem that needed fixing? did you bother to enquire whether users though this would be a good idea, beta test it, anything like that? I really can't use it like it is now, so unless you revert this disastrous change I will be searching for a new site. You *REALLY* need to reconsider how you approach things. This is NOT the way to make users happy.
Specific points - (i) can't turn off the actual text of article. Hover worked, it was clean, clear, gave me the info I wanted. Now? Dreadful. (ii) Lack of flexibility in number of entries shown. (iii) Time of entry no longer visible unless I make the column a yard wide.
FYI my use case is using NV to present headlines from news sources.
I'm afraid I agree. I don't mind the scrolling so much—good for the Twitter widget, at least—but the inability to limit the number of items viewed per feed is very annoying.
I've been using Netvibes happily for about ten years. To be honest, I'll probably keep using it. But I don't want to dread going to my page.
Agreed. Scrolling in the modules makes navigating the entire page more difficult, and THE GRAY FONT IS AWFUL. Nothing catches your eye anymore and the whole page is just a big gray blob. Please let us turn off scrolling and change font color for unread items.
Completely agree with Andrew Rossman's post - new light gray view is horrible, widgets no longer adhere to their settings w/r to number of items to show. Hard to understand the thinking behind these changes.
I can't begin to describe how much the new view SUCKS. I use this on a notebook browser and I find it impossible to browse quickly now. Whose stupid idea was this? Do you have a bunch of useless people there who have nothing better to do then mess up a perfectly good thing? Fire them! They're obviously trying to cover up their uselessness by coming up with dumb pointless ideas that are putting people off.
Netvibes is ruined for me too.
There's no good compact view for rss-feeds remaining.
Cut-off headlines and missing additional text on mouse-over, that just doesn't work for me.
If you know an alternative, please let me know.
Big Hint: nothing pisses users off more than unannounced, unrequested and unwelcome changes to the display settings of their starting-page news feeds. The feeds for CBS, The Independent, the CBC and various other feeds no longer display images, and the revised settings menus are atrocious. I don't know who thought this dreck would be good for users, but it's typical of beancounters who think they really know better than consumers what those consumers want. So, after having used NetVibes for years, I'm now off to find an alternative. If you see the genius who thought these changes were smart, do me a favor: chase him around the block a couple of times, preferably at the business end of a buggy-whip.
When new messages arrive, they don't show if you previously scrolled, then the new ones are hidden on top of the column !!!!
Agree. The recent change in APPS view has degraded the experience substantially. Font too light, barely discernible contrast between read and unread. I thought the monitor was failing. Rethink this one...
I like the scrolling but NOT the view. Its horrible. I can hardly see the unread messages, which I sometimes want to see, for example when I accidentally acknowledge all messages.
And NO HOVER VIEW!!!
Please don't "improve" without asking the user!
Improve to give the user an option!
Make it possible for THE USER to select the format he wants!!
OMG Netvibes, what have you done to our App View basic dashboards--it's horrible, dull, drab, and not very pleasant to look at or inviting to read! I loved my dashboard--in fact I was addicted to it--I set it up to view just I wanted w/ a theme to match my room decor, had as many articles that I wanted, could hover over the line item to get a preview--now it looks infantile w/ a huge font that nowhere near displays enough articles/content or on the flip side it's a boring plain list of the same font in each app w/ way too many articles, when I can open directly on the website to view more to choose to read what is offered there--your taste in esthetics and design is awful--sorry but it's obvious. And, you got rid of the hovering preview--bummer! NOW it's just plain UGLY. I'm so sad, did I say I loved my dashboard before this change. Netvibes was great w/ so many choices to allow the user creativity to design what was pleasing to them. PLEASE OFFER A CHOICE FOR REVERSAL. Hoping others will post comparable competitors that offer what users lost here. Netvibes, you really messed up big time this time.
Please offer a way to chose the old style app view! The latest change means I can no longer use my browser's increase font-size option without making the text too big to fit to see at 125% (as the text now goes off the right of the box). As others mentioned, the tool-tip pop has also gone which I prefered to having the snippet within the page itself because it meant there was less text within the page...
Additionally when the "Looks like no new articles" box is displayed it has no padding around the paper-like background.
This new change is horrible! It is SO difficult to read (really? . . . .gray? . . . .)
I could also do without the scrolling. Is there any chance that you will change this back if enough people are unhappy, or is this just another one of those "improvements" that we are stuck with!
(which, by the way, is how I ended up with you . . . unhappy with the "improvements" of my last provider!)
Well, it's been a great couple of years . . . who are your competitors? Anybody out there have any good replacements, just in case?
The Grey font for unread, breaks common UI guidelines. It is practically unusable.
I also agree that font size, at least, should be adjustable to account for my increasingly aging eyes.
When you open a pane to see the article preview, the pane for additional articles is no longer adjustable. Some sites use longer titles than others, so this needs to be adjustable for each feed.
I actually prefer the infinite scrolling. However, there should be some way of figuring out how deep you are into the scroll.
The scrolling feeds in the app view is a bad idea. I want the fixed number of articles, the way it used to work. I don't want an infinitely scrolling list of articles I've already read. I'm only here to quickly scan for new UNREAD articles. Now my pages are bloated with endless lists of old articles I've read.
Instead of Netvibes defining the font choice in the app views, it should be a user option. We should be able to set the font type, size, and color for the title and the preview text. Such a feature has been requested for years, and there’s a long list of users asking for this. It’s one of the top feature requests, and the lack of support for this basic (and common) feature is telling on what we can expect from Netvibes.
The length of the preview should be a user preference. I want the (full) headline (not the truncated version I'm getting now) and about 30 words of a preview. We should be able to set the size of the preview from zero (no preview) to some number of words. Looking at the HTML I find there is a lot of text already being sent to my browser, but the “design” is truncating it.
I have to agree with Laura. The way it was working was fine. I had no complaints. It worked, and everything I wanted was set using Netvibes’ options. The rest, like font choice and hiding the thumbnail, I could change using my style sheet.
I don’t want endless scrolling of articles I’ve already read. I don’t even want any scrolling of the app views. Like Laura, I’m trying to quickly scan the page just for the unread articles. In fact, I’d even like an option to hide read articles! I’d also like to control the feed by date and/or by number of articles (the way it used to work).
I had been using my own style sheet to get the view just right, but now it’s broken. I’ll try to fix it using the new CSS in the view, but here’s a few suggestions. What was fantastic is now bordering on too painful to use.
I like the Normal view but I do NOT want the thumbnail image. It’s a waste of space and takes up so much room I don’t even see a preview of the text (which is the much more important). I think I know how I can hid them again in my style sheet.
The item preview text is quit long, but at most I get one line of about 10 words. Several headlines wrap to three lines (especially since there’s a thumbnail image). Those long headlines (which are popular) cause all the preview text to be pushed off and hidden from the view. Looking at the HTML the actual preview content is about 350 words. Lots of preview text is available, but hidden on the page. There should be a way to adjust how much of the preview text is available!
Scrolling through the page with the mouse wheel is now difficult. This used to be easy. Now that the reader app modules scroll they capture the mouse wheel. To scroll the page you have to find the very narrow margins between the apps. I’d rather the app modules did NOT scroll. I used to be able to quickly scan my dashboard with the mouse wheel. Now I don’t have an easy way to do this.
Page Up/Down buttons are jarring, since they make the page jump (causing the eye to search around to find were I was before the jump). Arrow Up/Down is also not only jarring, but seems random. Pressing down arrow at the bottom of the page cause the page to scroll to the top? The reader apps are not all of the same length, but the up/down arrows jump to the next reader app in on column. Basically, there’s no longer an easy way to scroll a page of reader apps to scan headlines and previews.
The only way now seem to use the scroll bar (which wasn’t necessary before, and now it’s awkward). I have to take my eyes off the page, look for the scrollbar and grab it with the mouse, to then scroll the page while viewing. When I find something I want to read, move the mouse to that headline then when finished reading that article go back to using the scroll bar. This used to be really simple. Scroll wheel, click. Now it’s a bunch of hand-eye coordinating and extra steps.
I’d rather not have the reader apps scroll. I don’t get any value from that, and this new feature has made scanning for articles much more difficult.